Disagreements Mark The Process-Panel Debates Tick-Borne Disease Issues
Disagreements Mark The Processâ
Panel Debates Tick-Borne Disease Issues
By Kendra Bobowick
His final words Tuesday evening were telling: âThe facts are not clear. If you could go from A to B to C, but itâs not that way â¦â said Dr Robert Grossman, chairman for the Tick-Borne Disease Action Committee Wednesday evening. He adjourned the meeting at roughly 10, as frustrated words still rang in membersâ ears.
Regarding a report generated by Dr Michelle McLeod, member Kim Harrison gently began, âI can tell you spent time and I think this is detailed. There are a couple of things I noticed â¦â
âItâs a draft,â Dr McLeod said.
They were turning the pages of Dr McLeodâs interim report, more detailed than a preliminary one-page overview of the groupâs progress to date that Dr Grossman provided last week to then First Selectman Joe Borst as his term concluded.
Raising broader arguments, member Maggie Shaw looked to Dr McLeod and spoke: âWhat is going on â thereâs an elephant in the room. There are people here who are deer advocates. Is that creating a drawn-out process? We need to know where youâre coming from and the process [of determining how to reduce tick-borne diseases] wonât be so painful â¦â
âI think thatâs a little insulting â¦â Dr McLeod responded.
Ms Shaw was not finished speaking, however.
Ms Shaw persisted, âWill humanitarian reasons get in the way of helping residents?â Reaching for her folder containing statistics and studies bolstering her argument, Ms Shaw noted the researchersâ work explaining, âI feel weâve had people who have done the science ⦠they say deer reduction leads to disease reduction.â Indicating Dr McLeodâs draft report, Ms Shaw said, âI donât see that anywhere in the report â¦â
Glancing at the names of several members that Dr McLeod had contacted for help with the report, Ms Shaw felt, âThe people most for deer advocacy wrote the report. People from both sides should be in on the report process, we should have divergent views working together.â
âAre you through? I am a little insulted,â Dr McLeod began again. âA number of people in this room spent hours, took time off from work; the suggestion that weâre wasting your time because we donât think how you think â¦â
âI never said that ,â Ms Shaw replied.
âWe need a consensus, not people saying weâre holding up the boat and asking why itâs so painful,â Dr McLeod said.
Ms Shaw: âI am saying we need to go through the points, thatâs all I am saying.â
Dr Peter Licht stepped in, explaining that Dr McLeodâs effort was an interim report only. âWe have not even started to reach conclusions.â Her report could serve as a template, but the final report is really the important paperwork. Much discussion is to come, he reminded the group. Uncertain of membersâ individual thoughts, he offered, âI donât think anyone has a save-the-deer mentality, I think at the end weâll go through a myriad of data â the end is important.â He stressed again, âIf one of us feels there is not enough attention to one attitude,â he paused, then reiterated, âThe end report is important.â
At last returning to the document itself, member Neil K. Chaudhary asked, âWhatâs our plan with this document?â
âI say we use this as a template; right now the opinion process is meaningless,â Dr Licht said. Should members âtake a crack at itâ and offer their respective thoughts to the document? Mr Chaudhary asked. âLetâs table it,â Dr McLeod conceded. âI am afraid weâll get lost [in the arguments] and we have a lot to do.â
Raising the point of public perception regarding the action committee, Dr Grossman said, âThis has to be kept in the public mind.â
Would it be wise for the public to note the discord? âThe group is not of the same mind,â Dr Grossman said.
More positively, members noted that new First Selectman Pat Llodra is interested in seeing the group continue. âShe wants us to continue and make our final recommendations. She is supportive,â he told the committee.
Back to the report. Was Dr McLeodâs document neutral enough to submit to Mrs Llodra? Ms Shaw asked, âCan we just have more time to review?â
âItâs a great beginning â but,â Ms Harrison said. With the report tabled, members chose to circulate emails noting changes or additions they would like to see in the report, and âtake it up at the next meeting,â Dr Grossman said. Ms Harrison clarified, âWe have in no way reached any conclusions.â
More Discrepancy
Should the group use the word âcull,â âdeer management,â or âreductionâ? Preferences varied, but the question raised a point: âWhatâs the difference if you say âmanagement,â âcull?ââ
The reply from several voices was instant. References to culling are âemotionally charged.â
With another point to weigh, Dr McLeod asked, âWhatâs a cull, and what is hunting?â
The group debated: what do the abundance of studies, researchersâ work, numbers, or percentages, really mean regarding the mass of material the group has seen so far? Membersâ offered skepticism on some points â such as mice. âI donât think theyâre born infected,â Pat Boily said. He also noted differences in percentages among some data, saying he was âsuspicious of contamination.â
They talked about Newtownâs efforts to drag for ticks, the method, tick count, and results for tick infection. Were the ticks nymphs, or adults? Did they feed on mice or deer? Where was the dragging done? The group questioned all these factors.
Were there lifecycle changes for the deer, mice, ticks, that might skew different yearsâ results? they talked as uncertainties emerged regarding one study or another.
Ms Shaw said finally, âWe have to look at the science, but we also need to look at residentsâ illness. Itâs about people, not just ticks and deer.â Was that not why the group was assembled, to reduce human infection? several members countered.
The conversation took another path, with members wondering where the Newtown Forest Association (NFA) might stand regarding hunting on its property. Questions remain regarding the NFA, the townâs health district, and public education.
Dr Licht proposed contacting Newtownâs legislators. They could connect with their counterparts in other states, promote a vaccine. âI ask the community to start thinking about a vaccine; itâs the only way weâre going to cure [Lyme disease],â he said. âA vaccine is the cure.â Dr Grossman, for one, raised catches to the plan. Years ago a vaccine had failed to gain popularity. Ms Harrison later noted that pharmaceutical companies âhoarded information,â ultimately intent on making profits.
David Delia touted education, speaking from his own experience with the tick-borne disease committee. âWhat we are learning is immense â I canât comprehend why there is not more education,â he said. âItâs bizarre, insane, mind-boggling ⦠thousands of people are sick.â He questioned the need for a group to grapple with the problem that appeared to be obvious. âWhy is there not more information out there?â he asked.